Tuesday, July 01, 2008


As a supporter of Hillary, I have found Obama people to be particularly nasty. The zealotry and self-certain smugness of some of these people verges on frightening. The New York Times is reporting that many Clinton supporters have had their Blogger blogs shut down with a message about spam violations. Nixonian dirty tricks. And that's all I have to say about that.

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At Tuesday, July 01, 2008 2:12:00 PM, Blogger Steve said...


Maybe I have not been paying enough attention. I have not heard of this level of nastiness. I mean, I certainly expect some of it from any political quarter (bad apples and all), but not something I'd hold against the Obama campaign the way I hold swift boating against the republicans.

I always thought rather highly of Mrs. Clinton, but I never wanted her to run for the presidency. That's mostly because I felt that way too many people seem to hate her guts, which I was afraid made her unelectable. Even if not, I felt her election would probably be bad for the country because of increased polarization at a time when the problems we face really need to be addressed in all seriousness.

Towards the end of her campaign, Mrs. Clinton was really getting on my nerves. I felt that by hanging on and on and on, she was increasing the odds for the republicans (not only in the presidential race but across the board).

Now that Obama apparently has the democratic nomination locked up, and some of the rancor between the two camps is apparently getting paved over, I'm beginning to regain my previous regard for Mrs. Clinton, but I still don't want her on the ticket for the same reason I mentioned before. That the republicans have managed to convince 12 percent of the population that Obama is muslim is bad enough. I can't imagine what they'd do to Clinton, about whom many more than that would want to believe just about anything.

Good to hear from you again JJ. Cheers from Phoenix!

At Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:20:00 PM, Blogger jj mollo said...

I'm glad to hear from you too, Steve. I'm afraid I don't post very often. I have a lot to say, but I never seem to finish my posts anymore -- sometimes I think better about it and choose not to post them. Most of the time, I just can't quite wrap the words around the ideas.

Everyone I know is pro-bama and anti-war, so I tend to get lonely. I really like the guy, especially his speechifying, but the only thing he's done to warrant being POTUS is beat Hillary. I like him, but I despise his younger hitmen. Their certitude is extremely unattractive and their willingness to bend the rules is frightening. I'm also disturbed that he is getting such a large percentage of the Black vote, as if Clinton is a racist. I can't stand that assumption of guilt. Identity politics is not good for the country.

I also like John McCain -- not just on personality either. IMO, he is the only one beside Joe L who had a clear understanding of the stakes in Iraq. Democrats are, for the most part, guided by wishful thinking and feel-good ideology. John McCain is better on free trade, better on campaign finance control, better on willingness to govern from the middle. In fact, since I can't have Hillary, John McCain would be my choice. The only problem for me is the issue of judicial appointments.

Obama will appoint cronies, leftists, contributers, ideologues and popular fools. But they will all be liberals. McCain will appoint sound, sensible conservatives, and I guess I'd rather have incompetent liberals.

To me, it all depends on the VP selection.

At Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:27:00 AM, Blogger mal said...

it is sad when people let their bright enthusiasm turn into something darker

At Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:31:00 PM, Blogger jj mollo said...

Faction! Faction! We were warned about this by the founders. But with Obama I don't even know what the faction is all about. I really don't know what he stands for or what to expect when he gets into office. I don't think his supporters have any idea either, although they all think they do. They're willing to chew off their arms and legs to break the chains to the past.


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